American
West Airlines Flight 564 / May 25, 1995
(fonte:
NICAP)
9:21pm...
AW-564:
"Cactus 564 going direct crow, crow 6 arrival Las Vegas."
ABQ:
"Cactus 564...Albuquerque Center...good evening"
AW-564:
"564 at 39,000'"
9:29pm...
AW-564:
"Cactus 564...off to our 3:00, got some strobes out
there.
Could
you tell us what it is?"
ABQ:
"Uh, Uh..I'll tell you what, that's some, uh..right now
...I
don't know what it is right now. That is a
restricted
area that is used by the military out there
during
the day time."
AW-564:
"Yeah...it's pretty odd."
ABQ:
"Hold on ...let me see if anybody else knows around
here."
9:30pm...
AW-564:
"Cactus 564..can you paint that object at all on your
radar
ABQ:
"Cactus 564...No I don't, and in talkin' to 3 or 4 guys
around
here no one knows what that is, never heard about
that."
AW-564:
"Cactus 564...nobody's painting it at all?"
ABQ:
"Cactus 564 say again?"
AW-564:
"I said there's nothing on their radars on the other centers
at
all on that (garbled) clear area, ...that object that's
up
in the air?
ABQ:
"Uh?..it's up in the air?"
AW-564:
"A-FFIRMATIVE!!"
ABQ:
"No...no one knows anything about it."
What's
the altitude about?"
AW-564:
"I don't know, probably right around 30,000 or so. And
it's
uh...there's
a strobe that starts..um, going on counter-
clockwise,
and uh...the length is unbelievable."
(???):
"Where's this?"
9:31pm...
ABQ:
"Cannon 121?"
CANNON:
"Cannon..go ahead"
ABQ:
"Do you guys know if there was anything like a tethered
balloon
released that should be above 'tieband'?"
CANNON:
"Uh, no, we haven't heard nothin' about it."
(BOTH)"
"Uh, ok..(some chuckling), uh, ha.."
ABQ:
"A guy at 39,000 says he sees something at 30,000 that's
as,
..the
length is unbelievable and it has a strobe on it."
CANNON:
"Uh huh...?"
ABQ:
"This is NOT good..(laughing)..okay..."
CANNON:
"Uh, wha..what does that mean?:
ABQ:
"(laughing)..I don't know, it's a ufo or something, it's
that
Roswell
crap again!"
CANNON:
"Where's it at now?"
ABQ:
"He says it's right in 'tieband'."
CANNON:
"It's right in 'tieband'?"
ABQ:
"Yeah!"
CANNON:
"No, we haven't seen nothin' like that."
ABQ:
"Okay, keep your eyes open."
CANNON:
"I'll talk to you (mumbled)."
9:34pm...
ABQ:
"Cactus 564...we checked with Cannon and they don't have
any,
uh, weather balloons or anything up tonight. Nobody
up
front knows any idea about that. Do you still see it?"
AW-564:
"Negative..back where we initially spotted it it was
between
the
weather and us and when there's lightning you could
see
a dark object...and, uh, it was pretty eerie looking.
This
'air coptr..(mumbled)' right here going eastbound...
maybe
he'll see it."
ABQ:
"Okay.."
AW-564:
"First time in 15 years I've ever seen anything like this.
It's
probably military in that restricted area."
ABQ:
"Cactus 564..you contact Albuquerque Center
132.8,
goodnight."
AW-564:
"132.8 contact 564."
Just
then it sounds like another person in another aircraft breaks
in
on the conversation. It is never clear just what type of aircraft
this is
but
the individual has clearly overheard the recent
discussion.
9:35pm...
ABQ:
"Aircraft calling..try again!"
(?):
"Center...uh..got time for a quick question?"
ABQ:
"Okay..would the question stand-by one please?...
...okay..go
ahead."
(?):
"(mumbled) 781, what was that cactus guy talking about
he
saw?"
ABQ:
"I, I don't know, off your right wing about 15-20 miles.
He's
saying he saw a large object with a strobe that looked
like
it was at 30,000 feet."
(?):
"Ah...it's that secret stuff!"
9:36pm...
AW-564:
"Albuquerque...Cactus 564."
ABQ:
"Cactus 564..go ahead."
AW-564:
"(garbled)..that passed us earlier on the right. He'll be
in
the
area in a few minutes, is that correct?"
ABQ:
"Yeah, he'll be in there in about 3-4 minutes, at 27,000.
I'll
ask him what he sees."
AW-564:
"..be at his left-hand side between him and the thunder
storm.
Thanks alot, we'll just monitor and listen."
ABQ:
"Okay."
AW-564:
"Three of us up here saw it!!"
ABQ:
"Okay."
After
a minute or so Albuquerque Center starts up a conversation
with
another aircraft. Again it is unclear at first what aircraft this is
as
there
was no identification given and this aircraft does not preface
it's
transmissions with any identifier. A bit later a statement is
directed
to
"Hawk 85" which appears to be the aircraft in
question.
9:31pm...
ABQ:
"I can't find...in the next 2-3 minutes. Be looking off
your
right
side, if you see anything about 30000 feet, we had
one
aircraft reporting simething that wasn't a weather
balloon
or anything. It was a long white looking thing with
a
strobe on. Let me know if you see anything out there.
(?):
"I'll be careful..(garbled)"
ABQ:
"He said it was about 30,000'."
(?):
"(mumbled) I'm searching for ET."
9:40pm...
ABQ:
"Cactus 564...you still up?"
AW-564:
"Affirmative! 564"
ABQ:
"That was south of your position?"
AW-564:
"It was north.."
ABQ:
"Hawk 85, let's make it out the left window then."
AW-564:
"Albuquerque, can we get a chance..Cactus 564."
ABQ:
"You know we're all up here huddled up talking about it.
When
it
lightning'd you could see the dark object. It was like a
cigar
shape from the altitude that we could see it..and the
length
is what go us, a...sort of confused, because it
looked
like it was about 300-400 feet long. So I don't know
if
it's a wire with a strobe on it, but the strobe would
start
from the left and go right, counter-clockwise...and
it
was a pretty eerie looking site, but a, had the strobe..
At
this point in the tape copy I received there appeared to have
been
some problem as there was a brief approximately 1/3 second
solid
tone like a dialtone. Then there was a strong transmission
like
another
broadcast trying to cut in. The previous conversation
continued
briefly
and the tone appears again followed by another request to
"Albuquerque Radio".
9:41pm...
(brief
but solid strong tone heard)
(?):
"ALBQUERQUE RADIO?...ALBUQUERQUE RADIO?"
AW-564?:
"..and it was just in the lightning..."
(?):
(solid strong tone heard again)
(?)
"ALBUQUERQUE RADIO?"
ABQ:
"Yeah...is this one any better?"
(?):
"Yeah."
ABQ:
"Oh good! Ha..hey you guys don't know anything about some
kind
of weather balloon or a ufo that's out in the vicinity
of
Fort Sumner tonight do you?"
(?)
"I don't think so...standby."
ABQ:
"Okay.."
(?):
"At this point the answer to that question is 'no'."
ABQ:
"Okay..yeah, this guy sees it up at Tucumcari, says it
looks
like
it's 300-400 foot long, cylindrical, some kind of
strobe
on it, and everything else."
(?)
"Well...I would call it...I don't know what it is..yea."
ABQ:
"Yeah, okay...I didn't know if you were a science fiction
buff
or anything."
(?)
"Yea..no, we don't have, we don't have any published
"high
balls"
today."
ABQ:
"Okay..appreciate it."
(?):
"Mmm hmm...bye."
9:42pm...
AW-564:
"Albuquerque, 564...last time...just for our notes we're
going
to take a message. was that in a restricted area..and
that
was just basically south of Tucumcari when we reported
it?"
ABQ:
"Okay...the way you went through, the only restricted area
was
on your south side, nothing to the north side...and
those
restricted areas are inactive. There shouldn't be
anything
going on."
9:44pm...
AW-564:
"Albuquerque Center..Cactus 564. Thanks for your help and,
uh,
could we get your call sign?"
ABQ:
"Cactus 564...say again?"
AW-564:
"Albuquerque Center..Cactus564..We'll talk to you later.
Before
we go could we get your call-sign?"
ABQ:
"Cactus 564...mine is 'PP'."
AW-564:
"Was that 'tango golf'?"
ABQ:
"Pappa Pappa."
AW-564:
"Pappa Pappa...thanks alot."
(End
of Side 1, Tape 1..)
9:48pm...
ABQ:
"Bigfoot...Albuquerque Sector 87."
BIGFOOT:
"Bigfoot's on!"
ABQ:
"Yea..I've got a, uh, something unusual and I was wanting
to
know if you'all happen to know of anything going on
out
here around Tucumcari, New Mexico,...north of Cannon?
I
had a couple of aircraft reported something 300-400
foot
long..cylindrical
in shape, with a strobe flashing off to
the
end of it."
BIGFOOT:
"Oh..?"
ABQ:
"At 30,000 feet."
BIGFOOT:
"Okay...hang on a second."
ABQ:
"Yeah, I didn't know if you happen to know of anything
going
on out there...no balloons in the area, no
nothing
reported?"
BIGFOOT:
"Okay, where's this at again?"
ABQ:
"It's at, uh, well ya'know where...it's in Tucumcar,
New
Mexico,
it's about 150 miles to the east of Albuquerque."
BIGFOOT:
"Okay, eh...how far from Holloman?"
ABQ:
"Eh, Holloman, it looks like it's off the zero-three-zero
of
Holloman about 220 miles."
BIGFOOT:
"Okay...I think, okay...it's kind'a hard for us to see
here.
Okay,
they'll be zero for about 200. Um...we don't have
anything
going on over there that I know of."
ABQ:
"Yeah...I didn't know, we've tried everybody else and
nobody
else is...this guy definitely saw it run all the way
down
the side of the airplane. Said it was a pretty
interesting
thing out there."
BIGFOOT:
"Okay, it was at 30,000 feet.."
ABQ:
"...30,000 feet."
BIGFOOT:
"It was like..long...um.."
ABQ:
"Yeah, it's right out of, right out of the X-files. I
mean
definite
UFO or something like that, I mean."
BIGFOOT:
"..and..it..ooohh..ya'll are serious about this
(laughing)."
ABQ:
"Yeah, he's real serious about that to, and..uh..he looked
at,
saw it, no balloons are reported tonight, nothing in
the
area..."
BIGFOOT:
"It was strobing off the front he said?"
ABQ:
"Uh...I think the strobe was off the tail end of it."
BIGFOOT:
"Okay...strobe tail end."
ABQ:
"He said it was kinda, well it was dark but..(aside to
someone
else)..did he say there was lights in it?"
BIGFOOT:
"How long did he say it was?"
ABQ:
"He said it was 300-400 foot long."
BIGFOOT:
"Holy smoke!!"
ABQ:
"..and we don't have any air carriers out here
so...that
strobing
along."
BIGFOOT:
"um..the only thing that I can do is , I wonder if any of
our
aerostats cut loose or something 'cause we don't
have
any aerostats there."
ABQ:
"Yeah...not that far to the north."
BIGFOOT:
"I mean...to me it would sound like an aerostat, but..I
don't
think ours are that big though."
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